Tuesday, September 28, 2010

Dave,
Sandy Bell sent me this. It might be of interest to the
website.
Harold Schutzman
http://www.theatermania.com/emailer/process_in.cfm/id/129297

This is a piece about Les Moonves
Dave
Out here (the West Coast), CBS studio scheduling dept has kept a very accurate record of
what shows were taped/broadcast from what stages.  (see attachment)
 
Does such a thing exist for the New York studios?
The files out here go back to 1955.
Today I had a call from a writer needing the information on what studio the
Revlon Revue came from in 1960 and this is one I had never determined.
My best guess was CBS Studio 52, where a lot of the variety shows, other
than the big ones (Ed Sullivan) came from.  By 1960, CBS was getting rid of some
of the theater studios (like the Maxine Elliott aka studio 51 and the Mansfield
aka studio 59)
 
Dave Schwartz

Saturday, September 18, 2010

Here is the definitive answer to the question about those last pictures.
It seems that this conversation has become bi-continental!
Dave

Hi, Howard,
Thanks for the kind words. Happy to help.
Equipment identifiers Jeff Kreines and Len Modzelesky areCC'd on this e-mail.
So is Harold Deppe, Jr., who picked up your need from the CBS Retirees website, and the CBS Retirees webmaster. Dave will likely post it for the retirees' edification. We'll let the QuadList and AMIA-List know, too.
The folks there might be interested in the background of the pictures.
Someone may have a clue or two as to what was being recorded. A number of CBC archivists are on the AMIA List. Who knows? They might have or know where to find the material seen on the machines!
I wonder whether the magnetic sound was being recorded along with VT and telerecordings (aka Kinescopes) for editing as film with later match-back using videotape?
NBC developed a very sophisticated process for doing so called Editors Sync Guide (ESG).
The late editor Art Schnieder described the process on a page of the late Quad engineer and computer editor designer Dave Calaway's Editing Museum website.
That site and Art's description is preserved in several places, including (guess where): http://www.vtoldboys.com/editingmuseum/esg.htm
So, let's keep in touch. There's a lot of knowledge and old war stories to share. Please pass the Quad Videotape Group website on to folks you know.
We'll be making more of our Links page soon and will include VTOldboys.
Have a great Weekend.

Ted Langdell,

Secretary for the QuadVideotapeGroup.com:
Preserving Tape, Equipment and the Knowledge to use them, in conjunction with the Library of Congress
ted at quadvideotapegroup.com

On Sep 17, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Howard Dell wrote:
Hi Ted,
Many thanks for getting back to me so quickly - and with the answer, too!
Google, of course, does know about Magnasync and presented a shot of the recording amplifier, although seemingly a slightly earlier version than in our old photos.
Perhaps you've had a look at the BBC OldBoys website www.vtoldboys.com - lovingly mastered by our Chris Booth, stuffed full of (mainly Quad) memories and stills of the BBC Television VT operation - mainly London with some remote stuff. I think we now have approaching two and a half thousand shots on the website starting from about 1960. The place was run by kids in those days!
All we know about that Magnasync setup is that the photos were taken by one of the BBC location engineers on 6 May 1960 when the BBC was covering the wedding of Princess Margaret. He stuck his head into the temporary installation of one of the foreign broadcasters who were taking the BBC video feed and grabbed the shots. The note on the back of the photos doesn't say who the setup belonged to, but it does say they were recording a French commentary. Now at that time Canada was still pretty close to the Royals - and the French certainly not (we're always sniping at each other) - so we reckon it was probably CBC.
Now here's an interesting thought. You can't see it clearly on the photo I sent you, but with magnification on the original you can read temporary Dymo labels on a couple of the recorders which identify them as VT23 and VT24. VT23 and VT24 were the numbers of two BBC Ampex VR1000 channels at that time. Were the Magnasync machines recording a second sync audio track of the VT recordings? Maybe English commentary on the VT, and French on the Magnasync? If so, what were they synching to - video or control track? It was many years before we ran separate sync audio as routine at the BBC, and then we used timecode. We never saw Magnasync machines.
Thanks for the invitation but sadly none of us will be at NAB - but we do have a reunion lunch next week at a pub not too far from Heathrow so you're welcome to join us! I have forwarded the URL of your Quad group to several guys - one who is occasionally still working with Quad for an archiving company and who may be worth sharing information with.
Please pass on our thanks to Jeff Kreines and Len Modzelesky for their swift and helpful replies. We can now caption those shots correctly!
Let's keep in touch.
Best Wishes,
Howard Dell.
16 Birkett Way
Chalfont St Giles
Bucks. HP8 4BH, UK
Tel: +44 (0)1494 764149
----- Original Message -----

From: Ted Langdell

To: Howard Dell

Cc: Deppe Jr

Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 2:36 PM

Subject: Re: BBC boys question--What is this machine--Magnasync 602E

Hi, Howard,
Greetings from the US of A.
You'd asked the CBSRetirees.com website about what you thought was a "Picnsync" 16mm magnetic film recorder.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JIm38sWB7Qc/TI03egATGBI/AAAAAAAAAWI/47kwRZrjj9w/s1600/pic-2.jpg

We have an answer for you, through several hands.
Harold Deppe, Jr is a video engineer with Quad experience. His Dad (Harold, Sr.) is one of the retirees whose name you'd likely see on the CBSRetirees.com website.
Harold Jr. saw your request on the retirees website and passed it on to me (SEE BELOW) thinking some of the folks on the Quad Videotape Group QuadList would be able to identify it.
I also thought someone on the Association of Moving Image Archivists list would have a good clue, so I posted a link to the photo there.
Via the AMIA-L, film maker/film equipment maker Jeff Kreines says:
On Sep 17, 2010, at 5:08 AM, Jeff Kreines wrote:
Magnasync 602E, 16mm.
Very common in the US, successor to the X400 series.
Jeff's post was quickly followed by Voice of America Moving Image Librarian Len Modzelesky, who just said, "Magnasync."
So, we hope this helps. Can you tell us more about the photo and how you came to need an ID?
Feel free to take a look around http://www.quadvideotapegroup.com and to join the QuadList. We have a number of members in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, India, Canada, Germany and who knows where else.
If you're in the US for NAB, please join us on Tuesday for lunch at 12:30, somewhere within the complex.
With IBC just ended... might be fun to propose a Quad/Editing/Telecine gathering there.

Ted Langdell
Secretary for the QuadVideotapeGroup.com:
Preserving Tape, Equipment and the Knowledge to use them, in conjunction with the Library of Congress
ted at quadvideotapegroup.com
Hi Dave.

The photo of the tape recorder has 16MM Film reels.....could it be that
this recorder is recording audio on a 16mm film magnetic track?

Regards,
Harold Deppe
I have just posted the latest Newsletter. You will find it here:
http://www.cbsretirees.com/Newsletter%20Related/2010-10.htm

Thursday, September 16, 2010

September 7th, 2010

George W. Smith

George W. Smith, 91, of Golden Acres Chatham Center passed away peacefully Thursday at Barnwell Nursing Home. Mr .Smith born April 3,1919 in New York City is the son of the late George and Florence Smith. George was a veteran of the U.S. Navy as a radio operator overseas during WWII. He was employed with Channel 11 News then retired from C.B.S. of 35 years as camera technician. He loved Ham Radio and talking on his computer with friends from all around the world, daily. Mr. Smith was active with the Tri-Village Fire Co. for a number of years. He was predeceased by his wife Helen Smith. Mr. Smith is survived by stepdaughter Geolen and her husband Thomas Mulroney. Grandchildren Kathleen Sanjar, Karyn Reineke and Linda Warren. Survived also by 7 Great Grandchildren and his close friend and caregiver Karen Twagor. He was a special man to all that knew him. Service will be private at the convenience of the family. For on-line condolences visit http://www.wenkfuneralhome.com/.
Hi.. Retirees,


It was sad to hear about W2jno ..before we all cross over the Rainbow
Bridge..
It would be great to hear from Retirees that can still ( see ) a Rainbow...
P.S... Its nice to hear from the U.K. I hope we can help them.

Best Regards,
Harold Deppe

Sunday, September 12, 2010

Hi! and greetings from the UK.
We are the BBC VTOldBoys, the retired engineers and tape editors of BBC Television's videotape recording department. Our interest period is the golden age of TV - mainly quad recording through 1" and to the edge of the digital era.
Do have a look at our website http://www.vtoldboys.com/
And our friends and colleagues in the BBC studios (tech ops as they were known at the time) have their own site http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/
I discovered your site while googling for sources of remembered knowledge of old broadcasting kit. We need some help in identifying the audio recorders in these photos. Can any of your members help?


The machine is undeniably of North American design, but what is it? We think, by enlarging the name plate, and screwing up our eyes to read it, that it says Picinsync, or similar. There is a suggestion that the machines were recording a French commentary - could it be Canadian? Picinsync isn't known to Google and unfortunately I can't find any club or association for retired CBC engineers to ask them.
It would be great if any of your guys can throw any light on the mystery.

Best Wishes,
Howard Dell,
Sometime tape editor, BBC London.
howard at dell.myzen.co.uk
(replace the "at" with a "@")

Friday, September 03, 2010

W2JNO has passed on and crossed the Rainbow Bridge

I just spoke to George Smith's companion and she said that George passed away quickly, from pneumonia and cardiac arrest at the age of 91.
He has been cremated and there will be no services held.
I will publish a copy of the obituary as soon as it is published in the local newspaper, the Register Star in Chatham, NY.

Thursday, September 02, 2010

Sad News
Hi Ted,
George Smith died last night. He was 91. No further details as yet.

73 from Joe Janovsky, w2ovf